Comments on: Microsoft Urges Vendors Not To Sell ‘Naked’ PCs http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/ A Notepad of Tech, Business, Science and Self Improvement Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:36:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Aaron Keogh http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1016 Aaron Keogh Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:23:15 +0000 http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1016 Just wondering if you'd be interested in bloging / podcasting about Matrixstream's cutting edge video on demand and IPTV Technology ( TV over broadband ). This is a technology that allows the consumer to receive a potential for unlimited VOD / IPTV content up to 1080P in H.264 codec over any broadband connection on a PC Player or set top box for TV ( IMX1020 1080P High definition STB - the world's first 1080P H.264 STB ) If you'd like to see pictures and video's of the this new STB you can go to www.matrixstream.com/presskit . Let us know if your interested. Yours Truly Aaron Keogh Tel: 604-291-7727 E-mail: aaron@matrixstream.com Website: www.matrixstream.com Just wondering if you’d be interested in bloging / podcasting about Matrixstream’s cutting edge video on demand and IPTV Technology ( TV over broadband ). This is a technology that allows the consumer to receive a potential for unlimited VOD / IPTV content up to 1080P in H.264 codec over any broadband connection on a PC Player or set top box for TV ( IMX1020 1080P High definition STB - the world’s first 1080P H.264 STB ) If you’d like to see pictures and video’s of the this new STB you can go to http://www.matrixstream.com/presskit . Let us know if your interested.

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]]> By: Azmeen http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1012 Azmeen Thu, 06 Apr 2006 03:13:48 +0000 http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1012 Eng Lee, Au contraire. MS have done it before and continues to do so. When it comes to Windows, it's not the consumers who are making the decisions... it's really MS, being the <em>caring</em> company that it is, deciding for them. Mind you, it's all in the consumers' <em>"best interest"</em>. Jonathan, It is because I agree <b>wholeheartedly</b> with you that I'm disturbed by this move. I grew up on MS technology. I thought MS-DOS was cool. I found Windows 3.x to be a significant improvement. I drooled when I first saw Windows 95. However, I also thought that BSODs and crashes are <em>"normal"</em> computing experiences. Imagine my suprise when I found out it <b>shouldn't</b> be. In addition, imagine the <em>"enlightenment"</em> I received when I found out that <em>"important"</em> computers like servers and mainframes don't run Windows. I too, was an <em>"average consumer"</em>. But because of my exposure to multiple platforms, only then did I discover the power and flexibility of other OSs. The way I see it, this is not an issue for <em>"me"</em> or <em>"us"</em>... but for <em>"others"</em> who are <b>oblivious</b> to Windows alternatives. MS obviously want to maintain this scenario, but for me, I want others to be informed that there are other <b>better</b> alternatives. Dabido, Such behaviour is, to me, perfectly acceptable for an enterprise. They provide a service and they can place what they feel is a fair price for such services. If they charge for the distro itself, then it's a different issue altogether. My company purchased a Dell server with Red Hat 9.0 (boxed set preinstalled) some time ago. I don't really know how they priced it, so I can't comment on that. I think Dell probably will only sell Linux pre-installed computers to companies, but this is just my assumption. Dell is known to be a close ally of Microsoft. I used to tri-boot XP, Linux and OpenBSD on my home box. Removed the OpenBSD slices because admittedly, it's way over my league. I'd definitely give it another swing, when I get more <em>"disposable income"</em> to purchase another hard disk :P Thanks for commenting guys. I sincerely appreciate it. Eng Lee,
Au contraire. MS have done it before and continues to do so. When it comes to Windows, it’s not the consumers who are making the decisions… it’s really MS, being the caring company that it is, deciding for them. Mind you, it’s all in the consumers’ “best interest”.

Jonathan,
It is because I agree wholeheartedly with you that I’m disturbed by this move. I grew up on MS technology. I thought MS-DOS was cool. I found Windows 3.x to be a significant improvement. I drooled when I first saw Windows 95.

However, I also thought that BSODs and crashes are “normal” computing experiences. Imagine my suprise when I found out it shouldn’t be. In addition, imagine the “enlightenment” I received when I found out that “important” computers like servers and mainframes don’t run Windows.

I too, was an “average consumer”. But because of my exposure to multiple platforms, only then did I discover the power and flexibility of other OSs. The way I see it, this is not an issue for “me” or “us”… but for “others” who are oblivious to Windows alternatives. MS obviously want to maintain this scenario, but for me, I want others to be informed that there are other better alternatives.

Dabido,
Such behaviour is, to me, perfectly acceptable for an enterprise. They provide a service and they can place what they feel is a fair price for such services. If they charge for the distro itself, then it’s a different issue altogether.

My company purchased a Dell server with Red Hat 9.0 (boxed set preinstalled) some time ago. I don’t really know how they priced it, so I can’t comment on that. I think Dell probably will only sell Linux pre-installed computers to companies, but this is just my assumption. Dell is known to be a close ally of Microsoft.

I used to tri-boot XP, Linux and OpenBSD on my home box. Removed the OpenBSD slices because admittedly, it’s way over my league. I’d definitely give it another swing, when I get more “disposable income” to purchase another hard disk :P

Thanks for commenting guys. I sincerely appreciate it.

]]> By: Dabido (Teflon) http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1011 Dabido (Teflon) Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:00:11 +0000 http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1011 Some computer places will load Linux on a machine, but they charge for that also ... in fact, some of them charge more. I tihnk Dell doesn't give you a choice (not in Aussie anyway), you either take it with Windows, or you don't get it at all. I'm in the process of cleaning up my old desktop so that I can remove WinXP from it, and install a Linux/Solaris dual boot (well, I might leave WinXP on it and make it a triple boot) ... anyway, it's going to be a long process, as I have 120 GB of disk space, and only about 20% of that is free ... and that's after freeing up a lot of that space yesterday by removing about 20 odd games. *sigh* I miss programming on my old Linux machine ... so, will be good to have this one sorted out! :-) Some computer places will load Linux on a machine, but they charge for that also … in fact, some of them charge more.

I tihnk Dell doesn’t give you a choice (not in Aussie anyway), you either take it with Windows, or you don’t get it at all.

I’m in the process of cleaning up my old desktop so that I can remove WinXP from it, and install a Linux/Solaris dual boot (well, I might leave WinXP on it and make it a triple boot) … anyway, it’s going to be a long process, as I have 120 GB of disk space, and only about 20% of that is free … and that’s after freeing up a lot of that space yesterday by removing about 20 odd games.

*sigh* I miss programming on my old Linux machine … so, will be good to have this one sorted out! :-)

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1010 Jonathan Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:42:05 +0000 http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1010 I would agree that this really may be the beginning of another strong arming tactic by Microsoft, but then again, I would not really consider myself the average PC consumer. When you think about it, the average user does not care about whether or not Microsoft is strongarming them into using Windows, as a matter of fact, they welcome the OS with open arms. When they finally figure out how to plug their PC's cables in correctly, they want to be able to turn it on and start using it. A PC with an OEM version of Windows will give them this and they would not want to buy a PC without an OS anyways. For you and I it is another story though. We know the power of Linux, OSX, etc. and want the flexibility to choose which one we want to run. Personally I think that this will give me another excuse to spend time doing what I like, playing with new hardware, and building my own PC. Microsoft doesn't control the individual hardware components that I can buy from places like TigerDirect so I can make a PC into anything I want going through them. All in all, I don't think this will affect people in any real sense. In principle this may be a nasty move by Microsoft, but the reality of the situation dictates that the point will be lost in the fray soon. I would agree that this really may be the beginning of another strong arming tactic by Microsoft, but then again, I would not really consider myself the average PC consumer.

When you think about it, the average user does not care about whether or not Microsoft is strongarming them into using Windows, as a matter of fact, they welcome the OS with open arms. When they finally figure out how to plug their PC’s cables in correctly, they want to be able to turn it on and start using it. A PC with an OEM version of Windows will give them this and they would not want to buy a PC without an OS anyways.

For you and I it is another story though. We know the power of Linux, OSX, etc. and want the flexibility to choose which one we want to run. Personally I think that this will give me another excuse to spend time doing what I like, playing with new hardware, and building my own PC. Microsoft doesn’t control the individual hardware components that I can buy from places like TigerDirect so I can make a PC into anything I want going through them.

All in all, I don’t think this will affect people in any real sense. In principle this may be a nasty move by Microsoft, but the reality of the situation dictates that the point will be lost in the fray soon.

]]> By: EngLee http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1009 EngLee Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:31:21 +0000 http://www.heritage-tech.net/270/microsoft-urges-vendors-not-to-sell-naked-pcs/#comment-1009 Good point you have there. Anyhow, I don't think Microsoft can take any action to force vendors to sell PCs with their OS. It's actually the consumers who make the decision. Vendors will probably be selling according to market demand, if consumers are unite enough. Good point you have there. Anyhow, I don’t think Microsoft can take any action to force vendors to sell PCs with their OS. It’s actually the consumers who make the decision. Vendors will probably be selling according to market demand, if consumers are unite enough.

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